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Ll concept of depression to explore the deeper unconscious ways in which we respond to the experience of lo Darian is a psychoanalysist who wants to ring the bell There are to many diagnosis that say 'depression' According to him this is caused by economic interests and a culture that demands uick measurable solutions We all know this critiue sadly Darian does not go into any effort to show any proof of thisWhat he does do is give genealogy of grief and melancholy with lots of examples from the fields of psychiatric anthropology art and psychological theory In this way he hopes to show that a lot of symptoms of depression are likely to be rooted in grief or melancholy This is rather interesting to read He gives descriptions of mechanisms involved with grief or melancholy Like that of identification with the dead that result in people not able to do anything or even dying An example of this are the people who die shortly after their partner What is needed in the case of loss of a close 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only treating the symptoms but I do not believe that this does not involve looking at how these patterns came to be So in the process people learn about there personal truths why there symptoms are there The same goes for medicine Only using medicine suppress the symptoms but treatment always involves talking going into why you need these medicine and in most cases the medicine is just used as a 'kick start' to get moving againThe fact that Darian gives such a one sided view on current treatments makes me suspicious that he deals with some resentment What could have been a balanced investigation into causes coming from grief and melancholy turns into a monologue That coming for a man pleating for a new language and dialogue is a missed chance for me Beyond the Pale unconscious ways in which we respond to the experience of lo Darian is a psychoanalysist who wants to ring the bell There are to many diagnosis that say 'depression' According to him this is caused by economic interests and 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The New Black Mourning Melancholia and Depression

What happens when we lose someone we love? A death a separation or the break up of a relationship are some This is a fascinating and necessary study in which Leader a psychoanalyst practicing in London argues for the fundamental importance of psychotherapy in our dealing with personal loss Leader contends that the medical community has over medicated the problems of mourning and melancholia causing a decline in the communicative voiced aspects of psychotherapy that permit people to engage in a dialogue of mournings Psychotherapy permits a verbalization of the unconscious causes of mourning and melancholia thereby creating the possibility for a treatment both comprehensive and responsive to the complexity of individual loss than medicine itself can furnish Simply prescribing pills treats the symptoms not the causes of mourning and melancholiaIn many ways this book is an elegant companion to and combatant against William Styron's great 1989 memoir Darkness Visible which arguably has been one of the important popular texts to make the case for depression's biological basis Styron's book reduced the stigma of the disease and made room for its medicalization as we now see it today Leader's book acknowledges the medical aspects of depression but thinks the culture of prescribing our way out of pain fails to address the psychological complexity of mourning and melancholia Indeed medicating those suffering from these diseases without also reuiring their engagement in psychotherapy dangerously obscures the subtle differences between the terms mourning and melancholia In brief Leader distinguishes between the two terms this way in mourning we attempt to detach ourselves from the object of loss; in melancholia we attempt to attach ourselves to the object lost He uses two helpful terms from logic predicate negation and term negation Predicate negation of a person represented symbolically as the person involves accepting the loss of the person in uestion This is mourning Term negation represented by the person involves the affirmation of the negated term the not person This is melancholia In mourning we move beyond the term negated; in melancholia we affirm the full negation of the term the person who has died by attempting to inhabit that void that loss One allows us to progress with our lives; the other impedes our ability to move on because it reuires us to inhabit not simply recognize the negation Both reuire treatment but distinguishing between the conditions and the causes that give rise to them is an essential aspect to treatment both with medicine and with psychotherapy

REVIEW The New Black Mourning Melancholia and Depression

Of the hardest times we have to live through In this book Darian Leader urges us to look beyond the catch a Best book ever


10 thoughts on “The New Black Mourning Melancholia and Depression

  1. says:

    This is a fascinating and necessary study in which Leader a psychoanalyst practicing in London argues for the fundamental importance of psychotherapy in our dealing with personal loss Leader contends that the medical community has over medicated the problems of mourning and melancholia causing a decline in the communicative voiced aspects of psychotherapy that permit people to engage in a dialogue of mournings Psychotherapy permits a verbalization of the unconscious causes of mourning and melancholia thereby creating the possibility for a treatment both comprehensive and responsive to the complexity of individual loss than medicine itself can furnish Simply prescribing pills treats the symptoms not the causes of mourning and melancholiaIn many ways this book is an elegant companion to and combatant against William Styron's great 1989 memoir Darkness Visible which arguably has been one of the important popular texts to make the case for depression's biological basis Styron's book reduced the stigma of the disease and made room for its medicalization as we now see it today Leader's book acknowledges the medical aspects of depression but thinks the culture of prescribing our way out of pain fails to address the psychological complexity of mourning and melancholia Indeed medicating those suffering from these diseases without also reuiring their engagement in psychotherapy dangerously obscures the subtle differences between the terms mourning and melancholia In brief Leader distinguishes between the two terms this way in mourning we attempt to detach ourselves from the object of loss; in melancholia we attempt to attach ourselves to the object lost He uses two helpful terms from logic predicate negation and term negation Predicate negation of a person represented symbolically as the person involves accepting the loss of the person in uestion This is mourning Term negation represented by the person involves the affirmation of the negated term the not person This is melancholia In mourning we move beyond the term negated; in melancholia we affirm the full negation of the term the person who has died by attempting to inhabit that void that loss One allows us to progress with our lives; the other impedes our ability to move on because it reuires us to inhabit not simply recognize the negation Both reuire treatment but distinguishing between the conditions and the causes that give rise to them is an essential aspect to treatment both with medicine and with psychotherapy


  2. says:

    You make Melanie Klein palatable for me AND you use Sophie Calles 'Exuisite Pain'oh how I love thee


  3. says:

    For some reason it took me ages to get through I think this was probably both because it was so thought provoking and also because the arguments weren't always very clearly structured Still it's uite brilliant


  4. says:

    This book got me thinking it really did And it got me writing uotes down As someone with a background in Psychology this book was interesting to explore both the topic and the freudian view on itThe use of films to describe certain information was an interesting approach as it made things easier to understand but it also for me felt fictional that way I found the clicinal examples very interesting to attach the given information to real life events and create a deeper understandingOverall an interesting read especially if you're interested in the topics of Mourning Melancholia and Depression


  5. says:

    Outstanding analysis Bit jargonny in the middle but there is some very moving stuff in here


  6. says:

    Best book ever


  7. says:

    Darian is a psychoanalysist who wants to ring the bell There are to many diagnosis that say 'depression' According to him this is caused by economic interests and a culture that demands uick measurable solutions We all know this critiue sadly Darian does not go into any effort to show any proof of thisWhat he does do is give genealogy of grief and melancholy with lots of examples from the fields of psychiatric anthropology art and psychological theory In this way he hopes to show that a lot of symptoms of depression are likely to be rooted in grief or melancholy This is rather interesting to read He gives descriptions of mechanisms involved with grief or melancholy Like that of identification with the dead that result in people not able to do anything or even dying An example of this are the people who die shortly after their partner What is needed in the case of loss of a close one are the following four 'steps'1 Introducing a symbolic order this creates distance and your own reality2 Kill the object3 Separation between the image of loved one and the position of that loved one for our life4 Giving up the image that they had of usIn this process there are a lot of things that can go wrong that results in symptoms of depression But the case is that the causes for the symptom are something else that means that the psychologist should look in to this causes To the persons own personal truth Something that does not happen today in psychologyThis is where I mean that Damian Leader goes wrong He does a lot of medicine and Cognitive therapy basing because they are only mend to threat the symptoms I think this image is oversimplified For example cognitive therapy is a method that treats symptoms by looking at behavioural patterns that are not practical for the life of the client and then the client and therapist try to change those patterns So far this can look like only treating the symptoms but I do not believe that this does not involve looking at how these patterns came to be So in the process people learn about there personal truths why there symptoms are there The same goes for medicine Only using medicine suppress the symptoms but treatment always involves talking going into why you need these medicine and in most cases the medicine is just used as a 'kick start' to get moving againThe fact that Darian gives such a one sided view on current treatments makes me suspicious that he deals with some resentment What could have been a balanced investigation into causes coming from grief and melancholy turns into a monologue That coming for a man pleating for a new language and dialogue is a missed chance for me


  8. says:

    The cliché that losses need to be worked through so that we can move beyond them suggests that mourning is something that can be done and dusted We are encouraged so often to ‘get over’ a loss yet bereaved people and those who have experienced tragic losses know full well that it is less a uestion of getting over a loss and on with life than finding a way to make that loss a part of one’s life Living with loss is what matters and writers and artists show us the many different ways in which this can be doneWhen Lacan observed that we can only mourn someone of whom we can say ‘I was their lack’ it implies precisely this uestion of what we were for the Other Being someone’s lack means that they have projected their own sense of lack on to you in other words they love you We love after all those who seem to have something we don’t In this sense part of the work of mourning involves mourning the imaginary object that we were for the OtherWhen Freud comes to discuss ways that life might yet be made bearable he uotes Frederick the Great’s saying that each person must invent a way to save him or herself Perhaps surprisingly he makes no mention of psychoanalysis here Instead Freud names not psychoanalysis but culture as the only possible panacea for the terrible demands that civilized life places upon us In other words he is saying that it is the arts that can save us


  9. says:

    This book interested me by the title The author starts out making his point vehemently that the drug companies want you to be depressed so they can make lots of money which is partially true But this book then began to become immensely enlightening for me personally Relating to feelings of loss and over self abuse I was very much relating to the melancholic attributes Also the subjects of mourning and dealing with losing a loved one This was all incredibly poignant If you are going through any of these life changing occurrences or may be in the future I recommend this book The middle becomes somewhat overly clinical but still enthralling


  10. says:

    The book set out with a fascinating premise of the idea of unprocessed grief being a potentially leading cause of many of societies struggles with depression I found the first third incredibly informative and fascinating Ultimately the second half focused specifically on processing the death of a loved one which wasn't uite what I was hoping to gleam Nonetheless it was an engaging and readable look at a complex aspect of human psychology and I am interested in reading other books by the same author


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