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Er Balkan haiduks Indian dacoits or Brazilian congaceiros their spectacular exploits have been celebrated and preserved in story and myth Some are known only to their own countrymen; others like Robin Hood Rob Roy and Jesse James Robin Hood Pancho Villa enormous numbers of obscure backwoods bandits you’ll never of heard of are supposed to have robbed from the rich to give to the poor Hobsbawm takes a swing at this confusion of myth and history from an historical Marxist perspectiveHobsbawm’s central argument is for the historical existence of “the social bandit” not ordinary criminals but people accepted by peasant communities as engaging in legitimate rebellion At least that’s what I think the central argument of this book is I suspect the argument was made clearly in the chapter of Primitive Rebels that this book is apparently an expansion of because there are a lot of references in this book to things the reader is already supposed to know Almost all the historical characters in this are obscure even Hobsbawm says most of them are unknown outside remote isolated backcountry districts and the publication of this book founded the field of bandit studies so I’m not sure why Hobsbawm writes in a way that suggests the reader should be already familiar with his subject and his arguments It’s confusing and unsatisfying especially because it seems like some of the outlaws would be very interesting if they weren’t just a list of names so marginal to history they’ll never even be googleableHobsbawm was famous for the uality of his historical writing Sadly this is my only experience of him and this is apparently not very representative Even so far as I understand his argument I’m not convinced that the bandits he talks about are any different from normal criminal gangs except in mythology and legend It reuires such an elaborate attempt to draw boundaries between bandit gangs rooted in peasant communities and “criminal” groups that seem practically identical and so many ualifications for each example of a social bandit that he offers it seems to me that he might as well admit that extortion theft and highway robbery of outsiders becomes a source of income in many economically marginalised groups and sometimes those communities seek to justify or excuse it especially if the robbers try and share out some of the benefits Also sometimes in a time of social revolt some of those bandits may join the revolt Hobsbawm was singularly unsuccessful at showing that these “primitive rebels” are any likely to participate than the general populationEffectively I suspect that Hobsbawm and other 60’s radicals had a romantic attraction to the idea of bandits as a kind of rebel and on attempting to write a book exploring the concept it became clear it didn’t stack up but Hobsbawm didn’t want to abandon it and it was too painful to clarify his thoughts

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Bandits Author Eric J. Hobsbawm

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Eric J. Hobsbawm ✓ 8 Review

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10 thoughts on “Bandits Author Eric J. Hobsbawm

  1. says:

    The only two chapters apart from the appendices and updated postscript that were most relevant and interesting were the ones regarding the role the Russian Anarchist Bandits played during the early 20thC but Hobsbawm really does not like them being Anarchists and so on up until the Civil War after the 1917 Revolution oddly Nestor Makhno is not mentioned in this short book and the chapter on Expropriation with an excellent short biography of an Anarchist called Francesc Sabaté Llopart a refugee from the Spanish Civil War who later performed guerilla operations against Franco working across the Pyrenees who I suppose epitomised the 'Social Bandit' that this book heavily deals with and theorises upon According to Bakunin the famous Anarchist theoretician a Bandit is the genuine and sole revolutionary a revolutionary without fine phrases without learned rhetoric irreconcilable indefatigable and indomitable a popular and social revolutionary non political and independent of any estate This surmises the essence of what the book is about but be prepared for no serious study of any particular famous Bandit or Outlaws it is theoretical Marxist social study about the relationship between popular heroes and their class basis And yes Pancho Villa is mentioned who still holds an almost romantic appeal in South America to this day along with Zapata who had of serious agrarian programme compared the military one of Pancho Villa A bit dry and I was disappointed for no serious characterorganisational study instead focusing and briefly mentioning some incredibly obscure bandits across the world from South America right over to Indonesia I give it 35 rounded down to a 3 star book because I found it severely lacking and not what I was looking for Interesting nonetheless


  2. says:

    uite uneven and perhaps scholarly than I would have liked it to be It falls far from Hobsbawm's standard of combining great prose with scientific rigour and for the greatest part I was bored with repetitive comments on banditry and uite long lists of bandits' namesNonetheless the book is uite original if not in style at least in the topic which is uite obscure and it would not be an overstatement to say that this is the definite work on this subject There was one striking exception to the otherwise rather flat and dry writing The chapter on the expropriators devoted almost entirely to El uico Francesc Sabaté Llopart gave me goose bumps I was so engaged in this man's story narrated by Hobsbawm that at some point I felt like I was reading a novel and not actual history The book is worth buying only for this one


  3. says:

    The sharpest historical mind of the last century turns his eye on pre Marxian revolutionaries bandits mafias anarchist peasants and the like from 1789 1900 and what emerges is a very colorful portrait of people usually rural in origin although Hobsbawm does spend a chapter on the urban mob who are usually not talked about in broad ranging histories on unrest and revolution we see Italian peasants turn to the Mafia Spanish peasants embrace Bakunian anarchism English workers embrace various religious ideologies and rural peoplesfrom across Europe look to Robin Hood type figures to help deal with the troubles of modern industrial society A compelling read


  4. says:

    This is a concise survey of the social phenomenon of banditry and why it is different than plain criminality as well as political revolutionaries although it obviously shares significant features of both As always Hobsbawm's Marxist analysis obscures the religious ethnic and racial underpinnings of banditry and although written in 1968 overlooks the role of any women at all in the peasantry Useful for my reading in this case for being an archetype into which terrorist groups conveniently plug themselves in an expropriate stuff for the cause


  5. says:

    you are probably not as interested in doomed idealistic bozos but this a little treasure of their brave failuresHobsbawm can be a little tendentious but we're all tendentious he just owned his tendentiousness also the postscript in the paperback I read hipped me to this Richard white article


  6. says:

    Robin Hood Pancho Villa enormous numbers of obscure backwoods bandits you’ll never of heard of are supposed to have robbed from the rich to give to the poor Hobsbawm takes a swing at this confusion of myth and history from an historical Marxist perspectiveHobsbawm’s central argument is for the historical existence of “the social bandit” not ordinary criminals but people accepted by peasant communities as engaging in legitimate rebellion At least that’s what I think the central argument of this book is I suspect the argument was made clearly in the chapter of Primitive Rebels that this book is apparently an expansion of because there are a lot of references in this book to things the reader is already supposed to know Almost all the historical characters in this are obscure even Hobsbawm says most of them are unknown outside remote isolated backcountry districts and the publication of this book founded the field of bandit studies so I’m not sure why Hobsbawm writes in a way that suggests the reader should be already familiar with his subject and his arguments It’s confusing and unsatisfying especially because it seems like some of the outlaws would be very interesting if they weren’t just a list of names so marginal to history they’ll never even be googleableHobsbawm was famous for the uality of his historical writing Sadly this is my only experience of him and this is apparently not very representative Even so far as I understand his argument I’m not convinced that the bandits he talks about are any different from normal criminal gangs except in mythology and legend It reuires such an elaborate attempt to draw boundaries between bandit gangs rooted in peasant communities and “criminal” groups that seem practically identical and so many ualifications for each example of a social bandit that he offers it seems to me that he might as well admit that extortion theft and highway robbery of outsiders becomes a source of income in many economically marginalised groups and sometimes those communities seek to justify or excuse it especially if the robbers try and share out some of the benefits Also sometimes in a time of social revolt some of those bandits may join the revolt Hobsbawm was singularly unsuccessful at showing that these “primitive rebels” are any likely to participate than the general populationEffectively I suspect that Hobsbawm and other 60’s radicals had a romantic attraction to the idea of bandits as a kind of rebel and on attempting to write a book exploring the concept it became clear it didn’t stack up but Hobsbawm didn’t want to abandon it and it was too painful to clarify his thoughts


  7. says:

    Because Hobsbawm is the author I'm awarding 3 stars Had the author been unknown 2 stars would probably be my rating Frankly I found the book mostly turgid confusing Hobsbawm has certain theories about the nature of bandits rebels righters of social wrongs in myth flesh blood but I damned if I can tell you what they are Nevertheless he does recount the careers of several of the flesh blood variety this section which is sadly too brief is where the merit of the book lies One bandit in particular a Catalan whose career spanned the years of the Spanish Civil War as well as the post war Franco era was particularly interesting I'd read a biography of that guy


  8. says:

    Great story badly told


  9. says:

    uite useful for my research though I would have appreciated a list of outlaw characters that could serve as an example


  10. says:

    Interesting ramble around the bandit as a phenomenon from mainly rural peasant societies Looks at the roles played by Expropriators Haiduks Avengers Noble Robbers and It is in the chapters where their opposition to state authority is analysed where this book really fide its feet; the sense of action and purpose if occasionally murderous possessed by some of the figures in the book is an example of anti authoritarianism that shames some of the narcissitic revolutionaries plaguing our own times


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