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  1. says:

    My first impulse is to dismiss it as an appalling piece of militaristic propaganda whose one saving grace is that it's at least much better than the movie But that wouldn't be doing the book justice With all its faults I simply loved it as a 14 year old and I'm in no way alone there Why is it so fascinating?Let me start by dismissing a couple of possible theories One reviewer wonders if it's deadpan satire I suppose when you see some of Heinlein's later books Stranger in a Strange Land 1961; I Will Fear No Evil 1970 you may get the idea that he's some kind of hippy New Age prophet and that Starship Troopers is poking fun at the militaristic right I don't think that idea stands up to serious examination Many of Heinlein's early books extol militaristic right winglibertarian virtues; Sixth Column 1949 is a particularly flagrant example From what I've heard the satire theory is in fact the reverse of the truth Stranger in a Strange Land was originally conceived as a satire; Heinlein was surprised to see that people liked it and read it straight and flexible than he's often made out he rewrote it that way and followed it up with a couple of similar booksMany people are taking Starship Troopers at face value and appreciate how it presents the military in a positive light Well there's clearly something to that But why does this book as opposed to many others do such a fantastic job of selling this particular point of view? If you're a soldier yourself I can see that Heinlein also a soldier can make you proud of what you're doing But my parents were strict believers in non violence and I've never had any contact with that world at all I still thought it was greatSo on mature consideration here's another theory which I claim relates better to Heinlein's oeuvre as a whole By the way I'm only saying oeuvre because I know it would annoy him One theme that he keeps returning to over and over again in different forms is the relationship between the self and the rest of the universe Heinlein's metaphysics were distinctly odd he wasn't sure that he liked the rest of the universe much or even if it existed in the first place You can occasionally see this idea presented in a straightforward way In his short story They 1941 it turns out that the paranoid main character is completely right about what's going on He's the most important person in the world; everyone else for reasons never revealed is involved in a gigantic conspiracy against him whose main purpose is to prevent him from discovering who he really is In The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag 1942 we find again that things truly aren't as they seem and that all existence is illusory The world we learn at the end is a work of art and can be changed at any moment Hoag is in fact an art critic sent to judge us on aesthetic grounds And in the classic time travel story All You Zombies 1959 the hero discovers that he's his own father and mother As he says he knows where he came from; but where did all you zombies come from? The final paragraph gives us to understand that other people may not exist at allAs we see Heinlein rather likes solipsism which when you come down to it isn't as ridiculous a philosophical position as you might think Wittgenstein the solipsist is saying something sensible but chooses an odd way to express it Heinlein has a strong sense of self and wants to erect a barrier as tangible as possible between him and the rest of the world A powerful metaphor for this barrier which he used many times is the space suit Have Space Suit Will Travel 1958 is not one of his best books but the descriptions of what it's like to walk around in a space suit are uite good I remember them clearly when most of the rest of the story has faded Similarly Space Cadet 1948 which I read at primary school is hastily written and uninspired; but again the only scene I can recall clearly is the one where the teenage hero throws up in his space suit after inadvisedly drinking a mint julep I was so impressed by this that I didn't dare try a mint julep myself until I was in my mid 40s I hope you see where I'm going What makes Starship Troopers so effective I claim is the space suit theme which here is taken to its logical conclusion The Mobile Infantry Suit simultaneously cuts off its wearer from the rest of the world and makes him almost invincible It's no coincidence that the stunning opening scene highlights the suit's amazing capabilities The hero is dropped directly from space onto a hostile planet and spreads mayhem with his high tech weapons while jumping a mile at a time in his jet propelled boots all without needing to touch anything directly or feel involved in the fates of the humanoid creatures he's killing by the hundred Fans of the book uniformly hated the movie for budget reasons Verhoeven took out the suits which were too complicated to render effectively After that everything felt wrong The most important part of the imagery was missing As already noted Heinlein wasn't writing a satire he appeared to believe in this stuff but I think he found a good way to dramatize what it means to be a member of the American military industrial complex The Suit gives its wearer superhuman technological powers while excluding the rest of the world to the point where it barely exists at all And the power the Suit confers isn't just military but also political and moral In Heinlein's world one only becomes a full citizen after serving in the military I don't agree that this is a desirable way to organize a society but Heinlein was describing what he saw in 1959 Eisenhower a former general was nearing the end of his second term and would be succeeded by Kennedy a decorated war hero Both were very popular Now of course things have changed and the military industrial complex is usually cast as the villain In Avatar I couldn't help thinking that the robotic exoskeleton worn by the evil Colonel uaritch in the final scene was rather like the Mobile Infantry Suit; the Colonel's defeat as many people have pointed out can be read as predicting the impending defeat of American Imperialism at the hands of a resurgent Third World I do wonder what Heinlein would have made of that


  2. says:

    A great work of science fictionThis is not at all about action and fighting bugs it is a study of a man’s compulsion to fight and or serve his country and a discussion about our society’s and any society’s responsibility to its citizens and what is best for society Like many Heinlein novels it works well on many levels the surface science fiction and then the deeper complicated voice of the storyteller speaking from his own experienceThis is a controversial book Criticized for espousing a militaristic maybe fascist ideal Heinlein was also criticized from the other side for his own lack of combat experience This book inspires strong emotions At the end of the day it was a fine book another excellent genre transcending work from Heinlein


  3. says:

    I first read Starship Troopers as an impressionable teenager My dad had a lot of SF books around the house particularly Heinlein's and I read most of them except the especially sexy ones that he hid from me I read several of them later and hated them But that's a different story And I have vague memories of liking this book a lot So when I decided to reread it as an adult I was expecting some old fashioned shoot up the aliens classic pulp SF like say The Puppet Masters What I got was a lot of thisNot much of thisAnd you can forget about thisBasically it's one long military lecture wrapped in a paper thin science fiction plot I was surprised by how little action there was and how much pontificating on military strategy and training More than half of it reads like a textbook It's not as painfully tedious as the infamous 100 page John Galt lecture in Atlas Shrugged what is?? but it's pretty bad unless you're actually interested in military theory from a proponent's point of viewAs many reviewers have mentioned this is one of those cases where the book has virtually nothing in common with the movie other than the name and a few basic plot details I'm pretty certain that Heinlein is rolling in his grave over Paul Verhoeven's satirical treatment of his military screedAnd I'm still confused why Teenage Me thought this was a great book


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    Starship Troopers is listed amongst the recommended books by the United States Air Force for a reason For those who plan on pursuing a military career this book exhibits the very ideals upon which our current military standards are based Camaraderie Sacrifice and Responsibility are than mere words to the protagonist The distinction between a fighting man and a soldier is made The distinction between a superior rank and a true officer is made Johnny Rico is a soldier in than merely name and the reader discovers this through this narrativeFor those of you who have seen the film incarnation of this story simply forget it It won't aid you in understanding or predicting the outcome of this book The tempo messages and level of seriousness are completely different Most of you know the pitfalls of watching the movie first so I implore you to read this book before seeing the movie If you have already seen the movie as I stated before forget itThere is one thing I would mention that is perhaps the fault of this book Heinlein shapes a militaristic possibly even oppressive society out of the remaining nations on earth He touts the virtues of citizenry only being earned through dedicated service At the same time he manages to skirt by some of the practical and realistic attitudes of people The society could very well work if it was implemented exactly in the fashion it is described in his novel but the transition from our current societal structure to this system of government is EXTREMELY unlikely It takes the edge off of the bold concepts making this book only a 4 starTo end on a positive note I'll say this When I finally finished this novel I had a brief spark inside of me For once in my entire career I felt a sense of pride in being a soldier No military training no officer and certainly no civilian has ever made me feel as proud of my profession as that novel has


  5. says:

    I enjoyed this book greatly While I certainly can't be said to agree with Heinlein on every aspect of life politics or theologyI do appreciate where he's coming from in this book Remember it's a 1959 book before the idiotic handling of Vietnam became apparent There are thought provoking ideas in this book even if it is considered a YA book Agree or disagree it's a good read By the way I must say this It's often actually often than not true that a movie doesn't live up to the book In this case that would be like saying the Atlantic Ocean isn't exactly like Death Valley If your only experience with Starship Troopers is the movie of that name then you don't know anything about this book excepting the names of a few characters The characters in the movie don't resemble the characters in the book The universe and governmental structure in the movie doesn't resemble that of the book The main science fiction hook of the book isn't even present in the movie When you saw the movie some of you may have noticed a flaw in the soundtrack a whirring noise That was Robert A Heinlein spinning in his grave at high speed The movie by the same name as this book is so spectacularly bad compared to the book I sometimes wonder if wasn't an intentional hit piece Sosee the movie if you will but PLEASE don't confuse it with or miss the book The book is or less a YA bookthen called a teen book an easy and uick readand FAR FAR superior to the travesty of movie by the same name By the way my late wife summed up a lot about the movie when she observed it should have been calledBug Blasters Update They have been playing this thing the movie by the same name as this bookon several TV channels lately AD NAUSEAMit seems to be on almost every time I check the listings on the idiot box So since there seems to be a new push to legitimize this grotesue cinematographic attempt at science fiction I'm forced to revisit my review here Yes this is a YA or as it was called at the time a teen bookbut it's a good one Let me emphasize again the movie doesn't even resemble the book except in that the enemy vaguely resembles the one in the book the movie uses 6 legged insect type life forms the book refers to them as arachnids giant spider life forms and they use some of the same character names But the world the novel takes place in the actual characters the nature of the government the way the military worksit's all different they even get the heart of the actual story wrong For that matter the relatively minor romance angle is as portrayed in the moviesilly and will mislead The story in the book is peripheral and is to give insight into the worldcosmos than to be a love story This movie is terrible please don't confuse it with the book This is one of those movies that ticks me off in that I liked the book and this thing takes the book's title and gives us a perversion of that story29 2018Okay time for another updateThis has come up in the discussion of the book onin the Action Adventure Aficionados group and now in a comment here I'm aware but didn't mention it in the review above The movie was actually an intentional hit piece by the movie maker He gave the book a Nazi look through his interpretation in the movie The government pictured by Heinlein in the book is Libertarian Everyone is free to live do business etc as they choose The right to vote and send the military out however only rests in the hands of those who have themselves served in that kind of service thus the reasoning in the book that a panicked civilian can't order disastrous military action You may agree you may disagree but it's not a government anything like the one in the ridiculous movie


  6. says:

    Starship Troopers Robert A HeinleinStarship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by US writer Robert A Heinlein Written in a few weeks in reaction to the US suspending nuclear tests the story was first published as a two part serial in The Magazine of Fantasy Science Fiction as Starship Soldier and published as a book by G P Putnam's Sons in December 1959 The story is set in a future society ruled by a world government dominated by a military elite The first person narrative follows Juan Johnny Rico through his military service in the Mobile Infantry Rico progresses from recruit to officer against the backdrop of an interstellar war between humans and an alien species known as Arachnids or Bugs Interspersed with the primary plot are classroom scenes in which Rico and others discuss philosophical and moral issues including aspects of suffrage civic virtue juvenile delinuency and war; these discussions have been described as expounding Heinlein's own political views Starship Troopers has been identified with a tradition of militarism in US science fiction and draws parallels between the conflict between humans and the Bugs and the Cold War A coming of age novel Starship Troopers also critiues US society of the 1950s argues that a lack of discipline had led to a moral decline and advocates corporal and capital punishment تاریخ نخستین خوانش روز شانزدهم ماه ژوئیه سال 1998 میلادیعنوان جنگاوران اختر ناو؛ رابرت انسن هاین لاین؛ مترجم پیمان اسماعیلیان خامنه؛ تهران، نشر گل آرا؛ 1376؛ در 272 ص؛ شابک 9649080406؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، نشر قطره، 1392، در 399 ص؛ شابک 9786001191732؛ موضوع داستانهای نویسندگان ایالات متحئه آمریکا سده 20 مجنگاوران اختر ناو، یا سربازان کشتی فضایی؛ رمانی تخیلی، اثر «رابرت آنسون هاین‌ لاین»، است این رمان نخستین بار در ماههای اکتبر و نوامبر سال 1959 میلادی، با نام «سربازان کشتی فضایی»، به فرم خلاصه، در مجله‌ ای فانتزی، و علمی تخیلی، منتشر شد، و سپس در ماه دسامبر سال 1959 میلادی، به صورت کتاب به چاپ رسید این داستان روایتی اول شخص، در مورد یک سرباز جوان از «فیلیپین»، به نام «جانی خوان ریکو»، سوء استفاده از جنگ‌افزارهای پیشرفته، و مربوط به آینده، و روش‌های جنگی نوین است قسمت‌های هیجان انگیز داستان، هنگام جنگ‌های بین ستاره‌ ای، و با استخدام «ریکو»، به عنوان سرباز، شکل می‌گیرند جریان جنگ او و همراهانش، با مردمان فضایی عنکبوت گونه‌ ای، در نهایت سبب رخدادهای داستان می‌شوند از دیگر جنبه‌ های مورد بحث، مسائل مربوط به شخصیت‌های داستان، در زمینه‌ های اخلاقی، فلسفی، حق رای عمومی، فضیلت مدنی، بزهکاری نوجوانان، مجازات اعدام، و جنگ هستند ا شربیانی


  7. says:

    Where do I even begin? For starters I should let the reader know that I'm not basing my score on the politics of the book as laughable as I think they are but on the plot of the book or rather the complete lack of a plot in the book While things do happen some of them pretty big Mr Heinlein has seen fit that we should not be party to any of those things Instead he saves the most loving descriptions for daily life at boot camp Seventy yes seventy pages of a two hundred odd page book are dedicated to boot camp Within those pages we learn the importance of food and being able to sleep in any condition Thrill to the excitment of marching into the middle of nowhere You will weep and wail along with the officers when you hear them lament the fact that they are compelled nay forced to flog their men when they misbehave Honestly you could watch the beginning of Full Metal Jacket and skip reading that whole part and save yourself some time and be entertained in the meantime Next you're treated to an extended flashback where a teacher who is uite obviously channelling the author lectures his students representing the reader about the major reason for the downfall of society in the past today What one overarching reason is responsible for the collapse of society? Massive energy crisis? Economic collapse? Political anarchy? WRONG It's because people listened to psychiatrists and didn't spank their children enough The secret to an orderly society is corporal punishment and lots of it It does make me wonder about the particular proclivities of the author but that's neither here nor thereSo now that our main character Johnny Rico is a full fledged soldier we can finally get to some action after half the book is already finished right? No No no no a thousand times no You will not see action in this book that is advertised to be about killing gigantic outer space bugs Instead you will be treated to the doldrums of a soldier that isn't busy killing things Guard duty Sleeping Maintaining weapons and space armor Dinner and its various protocols Even his time off gets detail than all the fighting Rico participates in combined The typical description for a battle will go like this We dropped on this planet to smash things up Boy what a mess that was This guy died These ones got hurt Then Rico goes to officer training school where we get detail about learning things And another lecture from another teacher to his students about why soldiers should be the only ones to handle government affairs Then we get told how battallions are broken down into platoons and suads and such forth Finally we get to the end which turns into one of the biggest anticlimaxes I've ever had the misfortune of reading You'll get what feels like five hours of blabbing about setting up patrol and coordinates streamed endlessly at you some thrilling detail on hypnotically suggested sleep and then a blessed five seconds of actual confrontation with something Then it's over before you even know it started The endI realize that the life of a soldier is probably pretty accurately portrayed in the book days upon days of boring drudgery with a few moments of life and death craziness but that doesn't necessarily make for a particularly interesting book At least not the way it's depicted hereDon't be fooled by the first ten pages of the book which actually contain action than the other hundred and ninety What you're getting when you get this book is only one step away from a military training manual only with some references to outer space and aliens tossed in along with a couple crazy rightwing ravings as the chocolatey syrup to go on top of the whole crappy sundae Don't fall for the hype pass on this bookAnd yes the movie is better It's stupid and fun The book is just stupid


  8. says:

    Find all of my reviews at “Nothing of value is free Even the breath of life is purchased at birth only through gasping effort and pain” Since NPH is one of the reasons Starship Troopers remains a favorite film of mine I think I’ll let him express my sentiments on the paper version I need to realize that sometimes it’s okay to not read the book Starship Troopers is such a cult classic – it’s just soooooo bad that it somehow became great The book on the other hand? Well – it clearly inspired the film but it doesn’t have the same style at all Translation – the book is smart and while I was reading I was all like because I am stupidThings I found enjoyable were as follows1 The characters were from Terra Know who else is from Terra???? 2 There was plenty of world building Barely a grain of sand went without being described 3 In a roundabout way it was still a story of war with icky critters The bad??? It was boring We’re talking a real snooze a rama The style was definitely love it or hate it and sadly I didn’t love it I wanted this Instead I got something that read like a futuristic military member’s memoir And it wasn’t even someone awesome like Captain Kirk or Picard – it was like the life and styles of one Ensign Crusher Y’all know what the reaction to that would be right????


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    UPDATEDStarship Troopers was definitely a page turner and one did feel like he was on the ground with the Mobile Infantry bouncing around killing Bugs But It was also incredibly pro war and the middle development section got a little long You remember how great Full Metal Jacket was but that the great parts were at the very beginning and at the very end? Well I felt that this book also started and ended with adrenaline rushes but that the middle was a bit flat That being said the realism and the imagination around the weapons and tech were pretty good I definitely see how influential Heinlein was on subseuent science fiction and it is impressive that this was written back in '59 The Bugs were never given any treatment to make them less of an enemy which seemed a bit like the vilification of say blacks or arabs by the extreme right I would almost give him the benefit of the doubt that this was a critiue of society but from what I have read that wasn't really his intention There is a lot of war theory in ST The purpose of war is to support your government's decisions by forcecontrolled and purposeful violence p 78 That the government's motivations could be wrong or misguided is never really addressed but then he is writing this after WWII and before Vietnam so my cynicism is perhaps too modern for this book The worldview in the book is pragmatic and brutal There is an old song which asserts 'the best things in life are free' Not true Utterly false This was the tragic fallacy which Brough on the decadence and collapse of the democracies of the 20th century p 117 Fortunately his pessimism has not yet been born out and there are still many who adhere to the 'best things are free' philosophy rather than the Ayn Randian determinism demonstrated here by Heinlein To be fair to the author he does mention some wartime abuses and in particular post traumatic stress syndrome in the tragic story of Dillinger and his murder of the little girl Barbara But even here the protagonist reserves almost no criticism of the military just some sadness for the misfortune my sympathy is reserved for Barbara Anne Enthwaite whom I had never seen and for her parents who would never see her again p141 and then back to business after the 30 day mourning periodOne sad aspect of ST's dystopian future is how citizenship is restricted to relatively few like in ancient Greece or Rome Anyhow it wasn't the process of voting that made a citizen the Lieutenant had been a citizen in the truest sense of the word even though he had not lived long enough ever to cast a vote He had 'voted' every time he made a drop p 207 Given the current attacks on democratic systems this is a kind of dangerous form of thinking IMHO If citizens are never given any choices and are limited to the elite the fundaments of democracy disappear No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority If he voted the impossible the disastrous possible happened instead and responsibility was then forced on him willy nilly and destroyed both him and his foundation less temple p 234 Again I find this view too narrow and pessimistic Overall since I am a dove politically all the military camaraderie kind of put me off I read it because it is a classic and a reference but I prefer the Red Mars or if my aliens have to be insects District 9


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    Big nasty communist spiders are attacking Earth and all the planets it has colonized It's a battle between man and bug and who is to save us?I'll tell you who Guys with really fucking big guns that's who With spacesuits that make it so they can jump over buildings and deflect bullets and drop from spaceships to the surface of planets without getting hurt That's who These guys get dropped onto planets with their spacesuits and their big guns and they can incinerate some little brown people like you wouldn't believe then they can leave without a single casualty This is who is gonna fuck up the big spiders AMERICA FUCK YEAH COMING TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAYAY That's yer plot other than experiencing the trials and tribulations of boot camp through the eyes of a protagonist who spends uite a bit of time philosophising about society and politics and all that good stuff And this MIGHT make it sound like I DIDN'T like the book That would be entirely wrongThis book is so vivid and so passionate in its description of what it is like to be in this army that I couldn't help but be sucked in completely It's an easy uick fun read and it's passionate in its monologues about how society should be I loved the sections where he's explaining his moral sentiments since I've never understood how someone could join an army and go kill people without uestioning the motives of the war itself Personally whenever I kill someone I like to know the reason I'm doing it But it truly is a different way of looking at ethics isn't it? Mr Protagonist believes that only those who have fought and risked everything for their nation should be considered full citizens because they were willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of their nation I can see how someone with a fairly black and white view of reality might think this makes sense But By fighting in a war you are condoning a war This means that if the war is ethically wrong you are doing something ethically reprehensible So shouldn't it matter what the war is about? I know I'm arguing with a dead guy It's my review and I'll argue with a dead guy if I want to Heinlein's protagonist also makes an argument about the prison system and how it doesn't actually reform those who do time I totally agree with him here Somehow he tries to euate this with an argument that you MUST spank children for them to have a sense of responsibility Uhh yeah back to symbolic logic class with you Bob But moving onI found it uite interesting how dualistic our protagonist's thinking is when it comes to ALL PEOPLE F'rinstance you can't trust a civilian to do a job that reuires fighting spirit; women are good pilots all seem to have great smiles and they're the reason men fight gay men apparently don't exist in this world but women don't get to fight Bugs wearing those cool spacesuits because well they're all sexy and small and fragile and stuff Then within the military the guys who haven't made a jump are lesser than those who have Protagonist's peeps look down on the Navy and get in fights with them etc He does have a name but it's a boring one I prefer calling him ProtagonistBut then I started wondering if this kind of attitude is necessary for the military to function I'm too skeptical to EVER join the military and that has nothing to do with fighting spirit But maybe in order to do what they do soldiers HAVE to feel like they're the best of the best doing the best thing that could ever be done with their life Otherwise they wouldn't be able to motivate themselves to jump out of the spaceship and kill the spiders or guard the border against Mexicans or defuse bombs in Baghdad or whatever else might get them killed So reading this book got me thinking about the mindset of this protagonist and thinking about the soldiers and marines I've known andwellmaybe as much as I disagree with this mindset perhaps it's a necessary mindset for someone in the military And we need a military So maybe we need some people who think in this dualistic way Anyway this is what Starship Troopers got me thinking about Part of this Heinlein can take credit for if this book is any indication he was than willing to speak his mind and he clearly had a lot of ideas These rambling monologues where Heinlein was channeled through his protagonist were just as entertaining if not so than the soldiers vs bugs part of the story Then again I'm horribly entertained by Sarah Palin's political career and occasionally read snippets of Ann Coulter's books because her anger is funny If that doesn't sound like you you might just find Heinlein's politics annoying But I was uite diverted and I'll be reading Heinlein soon There's some contention on Goodreads about whether or not this is the case but the way I interpreted the book is that you can only vote if you've joined the military although you might not have seen combat depending on the job you ended up with But you were WILLING to go into combat since the military assigned you your job and you didn't get to choose So you must've been WILLING to be a soldier if you want to vote So pthbthbthbth