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    (E–pub/Pdf) Συμπόσιον Author Plato Rating 2 of five all for Aristophanes's way trippy remix of the Book of GenesisWhile perusing a review of Death in Venice dreadful tale yet another fag must die rather than love piece of normative propaganda written by my good friend Stephen he expressed a desire to read The Symposium before he eventually re reads this crapulous homophobic maundering deathless work of art As I have read The Symposium with less than stellar results I warned

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    (E–pub/Pdf) Συμπόσιον Author Plato “It’s been less than three years that I’ve been Socrates’ companion and made it my job to know exactly what he says and does each day Before that I simply drifted aimlessly Of course I used to think that what I was doing was important but in fact I was the most worthless man on earth—as bad as you ar

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    Plato Ô 7 free read review ê eBook, PDF or Kindle ePUB Ô Plato free download Συμπόσιον In this book Socrates argues that it is not always a good idea to have sex with boys and Aristophanes explains we were once co joined creatures of three sexes either malefemale malemale or femalefemale and were shaped like balls How could anyone not find this a book worth reading?

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    Plato Ô 7 free read (E–pub/Pdf) Συμπόσιον Author Plato It has been a long time since I first read The Symposium That was back in university in my freshman year course Sexuality in Literature I admit I found it all a bit shocking the open tolerance of sexual relationships between men and boys—wasn’t it pederasty? Even now it is surprising to find that one of the most influential and foundational works on love in Western history is largely focused on relationship

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    free download Συμπόσιον (E–pub/Pdf) Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 7 free read The Symposium holds the key to ancient psychology One has but to compare post Freudian psychology's understanding of the drives with Plato's discourse on human longing here in order to measure the distance between the ancient and modern orientations to reality It is strange for us to conceive this in the post Darwinian post Freudian era but Plato genuinely held that the longing to know is the fundamental human drive wit

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    free download Συμπόσιον (E–pub/Pdf) Συμπόσιον Author Plato review ê eBook, PDF or Kindle ePUB Ô Plato I'm glad I chose this translation by Robin Waterfield and this publisher Oxford World's Classic the introduction is of great help and the text flows easily and is very understandable and doesn't feel stiff and suchThis book's subject is a series of speeches praising Love both of sexual and of mind kind; the former producing sometimes children the latter creative works and learning the latter is immortal and superior in a

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ΣυμπόσιονRating 2 of five all for Aristophanes s way trippy remix of the Book of GenesisWhile Forever Im Yours perusing a review of Death in Venice dreadful tale yet another fag must die rather than loveiece of normative Basilio Boullosa Stars in the Fountain of Highlandtown propaganda written by my good friend Stephen he expressed a desire to read The Symposium before he eventually re reads this crapulous homophobic maundering deathless work of art As I have read The Symposium with less than stellar results I warned him off Well see below for what happened next Stephen wrote Damncan you do a uick cliff notes summary or maybe a video lecture I would much rather take advantage of yourrevious suffering than have to duplicate itTHE SYMPOSIUMSo this boring Honey, I Wrecked the Kids: When Yelling, Screaming, Threats, Bribes, Timeouts, Sticker Charts and Removing Privileges All Don't Work poet dude wins some big assrize and has a few buds over for a binge They re all lying around together on couches which is as romising a start to a story as I can think of when the boys decide to stay sober boo and debate the Nature of LuuuvPhaedrus subject of a revious Socratic dialogue by Plato gives a nice little speech dry as a A Spectre Is Haunting Texas popcorn fart about how Love is the oldest of the gods and Achilles was younger than Patroclus and Alcestis died of love for her husband and some other stuff I don t remember because I was drifting off and so I got up to see if I would stay awake better on theatio It was a little nippy that daySo next up is the lawyer I know right Ask a lawyer to talk about love Like asking a Tilak Kathalu priest to talk about honor or aolitician to talk about common decency So he ontificates about ederasty for a while which made me uncomfortable so I got up to get some coffee I may have stopped by the brandy bottle on the way back out I can t recallSo after the lawyer tells us when exactly it s okay for a grown man to ork a teenager the doctor chimes in that luuuuuv is the drug it s everything man the whole uuuuuuuniiiiiveeeeeeeeeerse is luuuuv Who knew they had hippies in those days I needed brandy I mean coffee and the text of my ancient Penguin aperback was getting smaller and smaller for some reason so I went to look for the brandy get the magnifying glass so I could see the footnotesThen comes Aristophanes Now seriously this is a good bit Aristophanes in Plato s world tells us why we feel whole complete when we re with our true love Once upon a time we were all two bodied and two souled beings all male all female or hermaphroditic When these conjoined twins fell into disfavor Zeus cleaved them apart and for all eternity to come those souls will wander the earth seeking the other half torn from usNow being Aristophanes Plato The Why Cafe plays it for laughs but this is really the heart of theiece Plato uite clearly thought this one through in terms of what makes us humans want and need love It s a bizarre version of Genesis don cha thinkSo there I was glazed over with brandy fog admiration for the imagination of this ancient Greek boybanger and I was about to give up and ass out take my contemplations indoors when the wind riffling the ages a bit caused me to light on an interesting line I continued with the host s speechNow reallyis there anything on this wide green earth boring than listening to a Satisfying Mommy’s Pregnant Needs (A Psuedo-Incest, Mother-Son, Sleep Sex, Pregnancy, BDSM, Erotic Romance) poet bloviate Especially about luuuuv Blah blah noble blah blah youthful yakkity blah brave snoreThen it s Socrates s turn and I was hoping Plato gave him some good zingers to make up for the tedium of thereceding sixteen years of my life I mean the revious speech It was a little bit hard to hold the magnifying glass for some reason and it kept getting in the way of the brandy bottle I mean coffee thermos COFFEE THERMOSI m not all the way sure what Plato had Socrates say but it wasn t riveting lemme tell ya what I woke up I mean came to ummm that is I resumed full attention when the major studmuffin and hawttie Alcibiades comes in late and drunk and roceeds to Soul of Dust pour out his unreuited lust for older uglier Socrates He really gets into the nitty gritty here talking about worming his way into the old dude s bed and still Socrastupid won tlay hide the salamiVarious noises of incredulity and derision were heard to come from my mouth I feel sure though I was a little muzzy by that time and it is about this Shadow Game point that the brandy bottle COFFEE THERMOS slid to the ground and neededicking up As I leaned to do so I remember thinking how lovely and soft the bricks lookedWhen I woke up under the glass table top the goddamned magnifying glass had set what remains of the hair on top of my head on fireThe moral of the story is reading The Symposium should never be undertaken while outdoors This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial 30 Unported License In this book Socrates argues that it is not always a good idea to have sex with boys and Aristophanes explains we were once co joined creatures of three sexes either malefemale malemale or femalefemale and were shaped like balls How could anyone not find this a book worth reading I Never Met a Physician Who Wasn t Descended from a GreekThis might just be the work that ERIS: The Patsy (Warped Comedy Adventure Book 1) put the meta at least the metafiction in metaphysicsPlato s name is attached to it but itsrincipal focus is Socrates And guess what Socrates doesn t so much elaborate on his own views as 1 recount the views of others especially those of the female We Give a Squid a Wedgie philosopher Diotima and 2 indirectly reveal his views by his conduct and his responses to the views of others especially the taunts of AlcibiadesEven the concept of Platonic Love couldossibly be accurately attributed to Socrates but likely to DiotimaIn fact I wonder whether this work Verräter der Magie proves that the Greek understanding of Love as we comprehend it actually owes to women than menThe Epismetology of the Word SymposiumDespite being familiar with the word for decades I had no idea that symposium Symposium PlatoThe Symposium Ancient Greek is ahilosophical text by Plato dated c 385 370 BC It depicts a friendly contest of extemporaneous speeches given by a group of notable men attending a banuet The men include the hilosopher Socrates the general and olitical figure Alcibiades and the comic laywright Aristophanes 1984 1385 160 9642575000 1381 1386 1389 469 399 385 It s been less than three years that I ve been Socrates companion and made it my job to know exactly what he says and does each day Before that I simply drifted aimlessly Of course I used to think that what I was doing was important but in fact I was the most worthless man on earth as bad as you are this very moment I used to think hilosophy was the last thing a man should do In Praise of Love An Encore This is a dialogue about the human aspiration towards happiness and how that desire is best satisfied Plato s overriding concern as a teacher is how to achieve eudamonia or how to live the good life However this is as difficult a topic to capture in teaching as it is to achieve in action Hence he approaches the topic by defining many Night of the Wendigo peripheral topics by showing various aspects of the good lifeIn The Symposium too the same ultimate uestion is approached this time through the uestion of how to loveerfectly Many wonderful explanation of Love are given but in the end it boils down to how to live the good life through the uestion of what good life through the uestion of what one love to do and hence what should one do in life The answer that emerges is simple love only things that are ends in themselves do only them Ends in themselves are not to done for any further end to achieve something else And most importantly they should be eternal Symposium The Setting Plato s dialogues are fictional and often richly dramatic snippets of Mimi Malloy, At Last! philosophical imagination The Symposium is aarticularly dramatic work It is set at the house of Agathon a tragic Twin Spica, Volume: 10 poet celebrating his recentoetic victory Those resent are amongst the intellectual elite of the day including an exponent of heroic oetry Phaedrus an expert in the laws of various Greek states Pausanias a representative of medical expertise Eryximachus a comic Grammatik Des Biblisch-Aramaischen: Mit Den Nach Handschriften Berichtigten Texten Und Einem Worterbuch poet Aristophanes and ahilosopher Socrates And the A Neve Estava Suja political maverick Alcibiades towards the endThe SymposiumThe Symposium consists mainly of a series ofraise speeches encomia delivered in the order in which these speakers are seatedThey begin with the discourse of Phaedrus and the series contains altogether eight The Art of Gothic: Architecture, Sculpture, Painting parts divided into tworincipal seuences The Speeches 1 Phaedrus Love makes us noble and gods honor it Love is the greatest god Love is nobility This is the simplest of the speechesAn unconditional Im Zeichen der Triskele: Ein Bretagne-Krimi praising of Love and this from the same Phaedrus who unconditionally condemns it in his own eponymous dialogue 2 Pausaniaserhaps the most interesting of these speeches for this reviewer Wants to define Love before raising it Love is not in itself noble and worthy of raise it depends on whether the sentiments it De obotliga optimisternas klubb produces in us are themselves noble Differentiates between Common Love Divine Love How hasty vulgar lovers are and therefore how unfair to their loved ones Love is like everything else complex considered simply in itself it is neither honorable nor a disgrace its character depends entirely on the behavior it gives rise to The common vulgar lover loves the body rather than the soul his love is bound to be inconstant since what he loves is itself mutable and unstable The moment the body is no longer in bloom he flies off and away hisromises and vows in tatters behind him How different from this is a man who loves the right sort of character and who remains its lover for life attached as he is to something that is ermanent Pausanias goes on from this to rovide a theory on the origins of Social Customs of courtship etc We can now see the Fatal Dive: Solving the World War II Mystery of the USS Grunion point of our customs they are designed to separate the wheat from the chaff theroper love from the vile That s why we do everything we can to make it as easy as Code Name: Silence possible for lovers toress their suits and as difficult as ossible for young men to comply it is like a competition a kind of test to determine to which

sort each belongs 
each belongs explains two further facts First why we consider it shameful to yield too uickly the assage of time in itself rovides a good test in these matters Second why we also consider it shameful for a man to be seduced by money or olitical ower either because he cringes at ill treatment and will not endure it or because once he has tasted the benefits of wealth and ower he will not rise above them None of these benefits is stable or ermanent apart from the fact that no genuine affection can ossibly be based upon themOnly in this case we should notice is it never shameful to be deceived in every other case it is shameful both for the deceiver and the The Wapshot Scandal person he deceives Suppose for example that someone thinks his lover is rich and accepts him for his money his action won t be any less shameful if it turns out that he was deceived and his lover was aoor man after all For the young man has already shown himself to be the sort of The NIGHT. Erotischer Roman person who will do anything for money and that is far from honorable By the same token suppose that someone takes a lover in the mistaken belief that this lover is a good man and likely to make him better himself while in reality the man is horrible totally lacking in virtue even so it is noble for him to have been deceived For he too has demonstrated something about himself that he is the sort oferson who will do anything for the sake of virtue and what could be honorable than that It follows therefore that giving in to your lover for virtue s sake is honorable whatever the outcome And this of course is the Heavenly Love of the heavenly goddess Love s value to the city as a whole and to the citizens is immeasurable for he compels the lover and his loved one alike to make virtue their central concern All other forms of love belong to the vulgar goddess Makes one wonder if we should really be roud of our modern methods sans the niceties of elaborate courtship 3 Eryximachus Differentiates between Healthy Unhealthy Love doctor that he isEverything sound and healthy in the body must be encouraged and gratified Conversely whatever is unhealthy and unsound must be frustrated and rebuffed that s what it is to be an expert in medicine 4 Aristophanes Bases Love on the conception of Longing Completion beautifully illustrated in his famous Myth of Soulmates We used to be complete wholes in our original nature and now Love is the name for our ursuit of wholeness for our desire to be completePlato also uses this occasion to make fun of Aristophanes by Dark Alchemy (Dark Alchemy, painting whims lewd and bawdy man given to sensualleasures and fits of hiccups There are even direct references to Aristophanes s irreverent clouds Aristophanes do you really think you can take a shot at me and then The Symposium is a complex iece which is erhaps as widely read as any of Plato's works apart from the Rep. Scape Use your head Remember as you speak that you will be called upon to give an account Though erhaps if I decide to I ll let you off 5 Agathon Decides to stop the The Dreamer Wakes (The Story of the Stone praising of Love and focus on the ualities of Love For everyraise no matter whose you must explain what ualities in the subject of your speech enable it to give the benefits for which we Rivers Last Longer praise it So now in the case of Love it is right for us toraise him first for what it is and afterwards for its gifts He goes on toe elaborate on the erfection of Love s ualities about the god s justice moderation bravery and wisdom and how Love confers all these ualities to its devotees Thus Love is the source of all good according to Agathon 6 Socrates Enough with the Eulogies Socrates sets out with a series of uestions in an attempt to in down Love You have beautifully and magnificently expounded his ualities in other ways tell me this too about Love Is Love such as to be a love of something or of nothing He The Eat-Clean Diet Cookbook: Great-Tasting Recipes that Keep You Lean! proceeds through the same arguments as in Phaedrus and arrives at No one is in need of those things he already has Whenever you say I desire what I already have ask yourself whether you don t mean this I want the things I have now to be mine in the future as well Socrates Conclusion Love is a lack and desire to fill that It is a desire for something lacking or a desire forreservation of what has been acuired What constitutes eudaimonia is not to be had in a moment in time In a word then love is wanting to Witchcraft for Tomorrow possess the good forever If this is the objective of Love The next uestion is how toursue this objectiveAnswer Seek Love in Beauty and Reproduction and Birth in Beauty The argument does not deviate much from that in Phaedrus readers will want to compare this speech on Love with those of Socrates in PhaedrusSocrates account thus moves from an analysis of the nature of such desire to an account of knowledge and its acuisition for if we all have a desire for our own good and happiness the issue becomes how to identify correctly the nature of this good He defines intellectual activity to be the best good and central to human happiness than any other activity 7 Alcibiades An almost ointless speech does not contribute much to the dialogue directly and yet it does by adding to the context Plato s Political Intent Praise Socrates Distance Socrates from the follies of this young manAlcibiades account reveals that although he desires the wisdom he erceives in Socrates there is a competing value The Wedding Redux pulling him away Yet when I leave him I am eually aware that I am giving in to my desire for honor from theublic so I skulk out of his sight like a runaway slave This conflict between the attractions of wisdom and the sort of excellence that earns honour from the Rolling Thunder people is the very one argued out theoretically in Socrates speech Alcibiades choice to organize his life around theursuit of Ye Castle Stinketh: Could You Survive Living in a Castle? personal honor exonerates Socrates from any association with the terrible events that resulted from his choices Socrates was not responsible for the corruption Plato s Philosophical Intent Also show how even Socrates teachings are not flawless Even Philosophy is dependent on good students toroduce results Symposium A Conclusion The Symposium belongs with the dialogues concerned with Education especially the moral education of the young Its discussion of the nature and goals of loving relationships takes us to the heart of Plato s concern with the good life and how it is achieved That Education and Desires are seen to lay such an important role in moral development draws on a theme elaborated in the Republic and is concerned with the development of character and how that contributes to the good lifeThough Plato leads us to the lofty heights of the Forms as the true end of our desire for good things and happiness his account is nonetheless one that resonates beyond such abstractions The Symposium does not contain a fully developed theory of the self although it outlines with considerable care the dimensions of concern which reoccupy human beings Its achievement is a rich and unitary image of human strivingThrough this conception even if narrow of a flourishing life where certain things are advocated to the young as valuable the dialogue explores the nature of eudaimonia which may be translated as happiness or flourishing This is ultimately why a dialogue devoted on the surface to the nature of erotic relationships is an ethical work at its core which culminates in the specification of the life which a human being should live And it is this concern that relates the Symposium the specification of the life which a human being should live And it is this concern that relates the Symposium a fundamental uestion that informs a variety of Platonic dialogues How should one liveThus Plato s concern with desire and its role in the good life leads to his conclusion One s ability to act well and to lead a worthwhile and good life depends in Bootie and the Beast part on desiring the right kinds of things and acting on that basis What or whom one desires determines the choices one makes and thereby affects one s chances of leading a worthwhile and happy lifeIt is byrompting us to reflect deeply on the relationship between our desires and their real end and the role that our lovers might lay in helping us to achieve it that the Symposium really makes its mark The Symposium holds the key to ancient sychology One has but to compare ost Freudian sychology s understanding of the drives with Plato s discourse on human longing here in order to measure the distance between the ancient and modern orientations to reality It is strange for us to conceive this in the The Art of Mary Beth Edelson post Darwinianost Freudian era but Plato genuinely held that the longing to know is the fundamental human drive with sexuality the modern candidate foundational drive being derived therefrom What a different sychology this basic belief reveals And with this alternate sychology Plato reveals an orientation to the world that opens up horizons entirely other to those we are accustomed toPlato has shown a concern for the way that our Motivational Perspectives on Chronic Pain pre rational orientation to the real feeds into and constrains our capacity to reason already in other dialogues such as The Republic One gets the feeling that the arch rationalist becomesrogressively haunted in each dialogue by the realization that what we love determines in advance the direction our rationality can take in its approach to the real Nietzsche commented admiringly on Plato s sychological acumen evinced by his discovery that our strongest longing is the true but hidden master of our reason Already with the Symposium we see that the structure of reasoning crystallizes itself around this rimordial None Like Him: 10 Ways God Is Different from Us (and Why That's a Good Thing) pre rational engagement with the real Early on in the dialogue Socrates makes the rather cheeky claim that it is only the genuinehilosopher who can understand the real meaning of desire Socrates further Puta proposes to the incredulity of othersresent that indeed 伝説の勇者の伝説 5 出来心の後始末 philosophy is somehow connected with theursuit of the fulfillment of this deepest desire And what better setting could Plato choose to Killer Games prove theower of Socrates s insight into the human drives than a drinking arty Here Socrates roves his superior capacity to harmonize and rein in his whole human capacity for feeling not merely by displaying his superior discursive rowess but also by drinking every last displaying his superior discursive rowess but also by drinking every last of his companions under the table by banuet s end The banuet setting thus seems like a mock ordeal which allows Socrates to reveal his deeper mastery over his animal nature It is the depth of his transformation of his Cocksure pre rational nature that makes him the betterhilosopherWhat Socrates shows us is that our longing is the hunger for completion awakened by our growing awareness of finitude It is a drive to transcend the boundaries of our finitude through an effort to establish a relationship to a reality that is registered as being complete than that Beyond the Cliffs of Kerry (Bold Women of the 18th Century, possessed by the finite self Socrates famous speech on the real nature of love in this dialogue attests to the fact that our desire for sexual love is an offshoot of thisrimordial drive which is Porto Bello Gold part andarcel of the structure of consciousness itself to find our fullest orientation to reality in an act of knowing that relates all that we are to a world which is for the first time experienced as a unity In the growth of our consciousness we first learn to relate body to human body immersing ourselves in the hysical continuum of interchanges in a game of self forgetful clinging to outward shadows At this level of self development according to Plato s account of the levels of understanding in the Republic our relation is merely to the shifting outward images of being Because we cannot conceive the unity of things at this level we fall short of that supreme mark of reality which is the knowledge of the unity of things Our love at this level thus remains a game of hide and seek layed with ourselves as much as with one another But as the The Three Lives of Sonata James power of our minds grows we cannot fail to realize deeper dimensions of our longing to relate We now come to long for a relationship to the real established on the basis of our most characteristic capacity We long to relate to the world on the level of mind and we find that this relation to the world not only takes us deeper into the heart of the real Our deepest desire is realized in theerception of the world on the level of form This level of Mein Erster Mörder perception also takes us deeper into ourselves as well as revealing the true basis for relating to one another Our real community is a communion of mindsSocratesroposition to us is that we are selves and lovers to the extent that we realize our true nature as knowers And we attain realization as selves to the extent that we rogress from being driven by our shadow loving sexual love to that comprehensive love in us that is wisdom itself The rest of Plato s hilosophy is arguably built on this Kaki vojaki: roman v rimah in slikah psychology of self realization Plato s identification through Socrates of Love the Good the Beautiful and the True is really the best definition of the most consummatehilosophic vision In our highest reasonings Plato s Socrates claims these four things become one Their union in the actuality of an experience is what we call wisdom the end goal of the whole search that structures our lives from the first awakening of consciousness in infancy Modern hilosophy would be different if we operated under the same definition of reason The greatest roof of its ower to me is that even Nietzsche who was its most serious critic nonetheless ined for the loss of it It seems that Plato s description of the goal of human development was accurate after all even if it remains only an inescapable regulative ideal for hilosophic inuiry without ever becoming a stable humanly realizable realityThis dialogue is worth reading if only for Alcibiades drunkenly revealing speech expressing Socrates effect on those oor souls like himself whom he manages to convert to his way of life Surely there has been no greater Bear Boy portrait of thesychology of a great Black Women in White America philosopher anywhere nor of the effect that such a figure inevitably will have on natures less in tune with the original drive to know that structures human nature But Alcibiades nonethelessroves himself to be Socrates truest disciple even as he expresses his frustration at his inability read unwillingness to follow him to the end Alcibiades Worlds Beyond The Poles poignantly shows what s in store for all of us as soon as we start to take this gig seriously the way that Socrates represents will cleave us into two warringarts so that we become strangers to our old desires and attachments and strangers in the world awaiting a new birth Plato s Symposium is one of the most loved classics from the ancient world a work of consummate beauty as both hilosophy and as literature most appropriate since the topic of this dialogue is the nature of love and includes much hilosophizing on beauty In the spirit of freshness I will focus on one very important section where Socrates relates the words of his teacher Diotima on the birth of Love explained in the context of myth Following the birth of Aphrodite the other gods were having a feast including Resource the son of Invention When they d had dinner Poverty came to beg as eople do at feasts and so she was by the gate Resource was drunk with nectar this was before wine was discovered went into the garden of Zeus and fell into drunken sleep Poverty formed the lan of relieving her lack of resources by having a child by Resource she slept with him and became regnant with Love So the reason Love became a follower and attendant of Aphrodite is because he was conceived on the day of her birth also he is naturally a lover of beauty Ublic However the existing standard commentaries in English do not offer much by way of help to any reader.

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Nd Aphrodite is beautiful Diotima continues but let s ause here as according to many teachers within the Platonic tradition there are at least two critical Fragen Und Wege Zur Rechtseinheit in Deutschland points to be made about thisassage The first is how love is conceived in the garden of Zeus and that s Zeus as mythical ersonification of Nous or true intellectual understanding In other words for one seeking hilosophic wisdom love is born and exists within the framework of truth and understanding thus in order to have a complete appreciation of the nature of love one must be committed to understanding the nature of truth The second Ones and Zeroes point is how within the Platonic tradition truth is linked with beauty Two of my own Plato teachers were adamant on thisoint citing how modern eople who separate beauty from truth can never artake of the wisdom traditions Incidentally these exact two oints are made elouently by Pierre Grimes in this video Although I am not a strict Platonist I tend to agree When I encounter eople who have sharp minds and are keenly analytical but communicate their ideas in snide or sarcastic unbeautiful language or are in any way disingenuous or degrading of others I find such behavior very much in bad taste In a very real sense I feel these individuals have cut themselves off from the world s wisdom traditions Hugh Hefner's Playboy, 6 Volumes (Collectors) particularly from the Platonic traditionI wanted to focus on this onearagraph to convey a sense of the richness of this magnificent Platonic dialogue One could mine wisdom nuggets from each and every The Race for What's Left: The Global Scramble for the World's Last Resources paragraph And yes I get a kick every time I read the speech of Aristophanes featuring those cartwheelingrehumans with four arms and four legs Also two fun facts One reflecting on Alcibiades the history of hilosophy records another incredibly handsome man with a similar great head of curly hair and full curly beard a man fortunately with a much stronger character the Stoic hilosopher and Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius Two Diogenes Laertius reports the Greek The Journal of Latrobe; Being the Notes and Sketches of an Architect, Naturalist and Traveler in the United States from 1796 to 1820 (Burt Franklin ,) philosopher Epicurus also wrote a book with the title Symposium Unfortunately thisiece of writing is lost to us Darn OPRAH Good evening and welcome to What s the Most Spiritual Book of All Time For Menace of Club Mephistopheles people who missed last week s exciting semi final round The Sermon on the Mount beat The Bhagavad Gita 4 1 while Jonathan Livingston Seagull unexpectedly lost 3 2 to outsider The Symposium Let s all welcome our finalists Applause Enter JESUS CHRIST and SOCRATES both wearing tuxedos They shake hands More applauseOPRAH And now let me introduce our jury I m thrilled to have with us living legend Paul McCartney world famous novelist EL James the beautiful and talented Lindsay Lohan controversial scientist Richard Dawkins and everopular hockey mom Sarah Palin The crowd goes wild with some Practical Programming people clapping and others booing It s impossible to make out a word anyone saysOPRAH Thank you thank you thank you I m just going to remind you of the rules before we start Each member of the jury gives us a short speech and then we count up the votes to see who our lucky winner is Over to you PaulMCCARTNEY Thank you Oprah Well I look at our two finalists and you know what I m thinking I m thinking they won that speciallace they have in our hearts because they told us about Love And I remember back in 1966 when John gave that interview where he said no offense intended we re opular than Jesus JESUS holds up a hand to show he s cool They gave John a hard time about that but all he wanted to say was that even though Jesus had shown us the ower of Love maybe at that exact moment in history we could do a better job of bringing it to the Work and Integrity: The Crisis and Promise of Professionalism in America people and telling them all how amazing Love is Because it is amazing isn t it He takes out a guitarPerhaps some of you remember this song we wroteThere s nothing you can do that can t be doneNothing you can sing that can t be sungNothing you can say but you can learn how tolay the gameIt s easyNothing you can make that can t be madeNo one you can save that can t be savedNothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in timeIt s easyAll you need is love OPRAH That s wonderful Paul but who are you voting forMCCARTNEY Oh er well if John were here I think he d want me to vote for The Symposium He was always had a thing for Socrates George too Yes Socrates it is Applause The scoreboard shows 1 0 SOCRATES looks a little embarrassed while JESUS curiously examines MCCARTNEY s guitarOPRAH That s terrific Paul beautiful beautiful song Really takes me back So Socrates is in the lead but it s early days yet Your turn ErikaJAMES Good evening and I m thrilled to be here Now I m sure some of you have read the Fifty Shades books and I believe a lot of eople misunderstand them It s easy just to think about the sex and the glitz and the limos and the handcuffs and the blindfolds and the whips and the OPRAH I m not uite sure what you re trying to say here ErikaJAMES Just let me finish Oprah What most eople don t realize is that these books aren t about sex they re about Love They re a spiritual journey where Ana has to help Christian have you ever wondered why he s called Christian find himself and discover the difference between empty eroticism and the redeeming Alphabet of Classical Dance power of OPRAH I m afraid I m going to have to cut you off there Erika You ll have to tell us now who you re voting forJAMES Well Jesus of course Really Fifty Shades is an allegory a modern version of Dante s OPRAH That s incredibly interesting Erika and I wish we had time to talk about it But now the score s 1 1 and we re moving on to our third member of the jury Your turn LindsayLOHAN Thank you everyone and I darticularly like to thank my An Unmarried Lady parole officer for allowing me to join you tonight She said it d be good for me Laughter applause So yeah Love To me love s about trying to find my soulmate I bet there slenty of you eople who feel the same way I do there s someone out there who s like the other half of me and I have to find that erson to be complete You know And it s really hard to guess who that Copra: Round One person is maybe it s a guy like you know maybe Justin or Ashton or Zac or Ryan and we were once thiserson who was half a man and half a woman and we got split apart or maybe it s a woman like maybe Sam or OPRAH Lindsay that s such a moving thought but we ve got to watch the clock Who are you voting forLOHAN Well duh Socrates of course It s all there in the Symposium The Aristophanes speech I must have read it a million timesOPRAH Lindsay thank you so much and I really hope you find your soulmate one day You just need to keep looking So Socrates has taken a 2 1 lead and we re going over to our next speaker RichardDAWKINS Ah yes Now I ve been sitting here listening to all of you and I ve enjoyed your contributions but I m a scientist and I ve got to think about things in a scientific way When I think about love as a scientist all I ultimately see is tropisms and feedback loops An organism feels a lack of something it could be as simple as an E coli needing an essential nutrient and it does what it can to get it Love is just the concrete expression of that negative feedback loop There s nothing OPRAH This all sounds like Socrates s speech I take it you re voting for him thenDAWKINS What Oh no no not at all Jesus every time He takes off his jacket revealing a T shirt that says ATHEISTS FOR JESUS I can t stand Platonic forms and all that mystical nonsense Jesus now there s a straightforward Schoenbergs Early Correspondence plain speakingerson with solid humanist values Just a shame he got mixed up with the religion business Boos catcalls some scattered clapping The scoreboard shows 2 2OPRAH Er right Always ready to surprise us Richard So it s up to Sarah to cast the deciding vote Over to you SarahPALIN Well Oprah I m afraid I m not as imaginative as Richard I m just a regular small town girl with regular small town values and I was brought up readin the Sermon on the Mount Blessed are they which are Roald Dahl: Wales of the Unexpected persecuted for righteousness sake blessed are ye when men shall revile you smaller government lower taxes support Israel no to OPRAH Is that all in the Sermon on the Mount SarahPALIN Maybe not in those exact words But it s there And you can bet your boots I m not votin for a liberal type who hangs around with a bunch of guys what re openly tryin to get into his JESUS and SOCRATES exchangeuzzled glancesPALIN Anyways I m votin for JesusOPRAH Ah thank you Sarah Forthright as ever So that s 3 2 to The Sermon on for JesusOPRAH Ah thank you Sarah Forthright as ever So that s 3 2 to The Sermon on Mount but well done The Symposium you were so close And thank you everyone Verteidigung Und Frieden: Politik Mit Militärischen Mitteln particularly Socrates and Mr Christ for an amazing and deeply spiritual experience it s been incredible meeting you all thank you again and we ll be back next week Credits theme music It has been a long time since I first read The Symposium That was back in university in my freshman year course Sexuality in Literature I admit I found it all a bit shocking the open tolerance of sexual relationships between men and boys wasn t itederasty Even now it is surprising to find that one of the most influential and foundational works on love in Western history is largely focused on relationships that have often been deemed illegal Imagine what the medieval Europeans would have thought of this work had it not been entirely inaccessible to them in Latin Maybe they would have enjoyed the notion of spiritual Platonic love but I doubt they would have liked Alcibiades intrusionWell after re reading this little dialogue I can only concur with the verdict of the crowd that this is one of Plato s most The Indo-Aryan Controversy: Evidence and Inference in Indian History perfect works Indeed it is among the handful of Plato s works that is arguably valuable as literature than ashilosophy Plato was a writer in erfect control of his craft and even little detail of this short dialogue bursts with life The reader feels as if she is really there eavesdropping on a bunch of drunken Athenians as they extemporize on loveFurther organizing the dialogue as a seuence of speeches and not as a dialogue between Socrates and an interlocutor effectively reduces the sometimes unpleasant aspect of Plato s works of Socrates forcing his way through an awkward argument as his admirers assent to his every fallacious deduction Plato here shows us a genuine diversity of opinions and styles roving himself a versatile writer His ortrayal of Aristophanes is articularly charming and memorable a gentle
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TO ARISTOPHANES PORTRAYAL OF SOCRATES IN THE to Aristophanes satirical Rhode Island: A Genial History portrayal of Socrates in The And for anyone who has ever been in love I suspect that Aristophanes little myth will be far resonant than the ideal love described by Socrates I m glad I chose this translation by Robin Waterfield and thisublisher Oxford World s Classic the introduction is of great help and the text flows easily and is very understandable and doesn t feel stiff and suchThis book s subject is a series of speeches raising Love both of sexual and of mind kind the former roducing sometimes children the latter creative works and learning the latter is immortal and superior in author s opinion The book ends with useful notes and a name index that shines light on the Archie Meets Ramones party guests and namesopping up in conversations Plato wrote the book between 385 378 BC most likely around 380 BCPlato sets this imagined high society dinner art in Athens 416 BC which is told about to others just after the death of one of the guests Alcibades in 404 BC Other guests include the comic oet Aristophanes who of course gets the funny hiccups that is cured with sneezing and Plato s teacher Socrates who gets to be the giver of Plato s opinion on the subject Socrates himself gets it from not certain if existed Merlin person that is Diotima a wise womanI liked this uote On the other hand ignoranteople don t love knowledge or desire wisdom either because the trouble with ignorance is Poultrygeist precisely that if aerson lacks virtue and knowledge he s erfectly satisfied with the way he is If a erson isn t aware of a lack he can t desire the thing which he isn t aware of lackingSeven speeches are heard Socrates turn comes at the end but when Alcibades bursts into the Jahrb�cher Des Kaiserlichen K�niglichen Polytechnischen Institutes in Wien, 1827, Vol. 10: In Verbindung Mit Dem Professoren Des Institutes (Classic Reprint) part he gives one speechraising Socrates and clearly showing that to him the mind art of Love is of a stranger he doesn t really get why Socrates rejects his advances Alcibades comes to a bad end in exile murdered by the Persians Socrates as we know from history gets a death sentence having to drink oison But all ends well in this story Balzac: A Biography people leave thearty some sleep to the next morning and Socrates goes back to the Lyceum gymnasium and ublic baths in the morning as usual he has a good alcohol tolerance We get a great dinner arty conversation about love that hold surprisingly noble interesting thoughts to carry with us to life. Except the classicist who knows Greek; and they also tend to be light on the dialogue as a work of hilosop. ,